RM36D0EC _51 Engine / Hybrid System _083056 STOP AND START _0402418 STOP AND START SYSTEM C

STOP AND START  STOP AND START SYSTEM  P033562  Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Signal Compare Failure  


DESCRIPTION

The crankshaft position sensor sends an engine speed signal (NE signal) to the ECM. The engine speed signal is then sent directly from the NEO terminal of the ECM to the engine stop and start ECU. Additionally, the ECM sends the engine speed to the engine stop and start ECU via CAN communication. The engine stop and start ECU compares the NE signal and engine speed received via CAN communication to check for errors in the NE signal.

If the NE signal is abnormal, the engine stop and start ECU will blink the stop and start cancel indicator and stores DTC P033562.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area Warning Indicate Memory Note
P033562 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Signal Compare Failure All of the following conditions are met for 10 seconds (1 trip detection logic):
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Normal communication between the ECM and the engine stop and start ECU.

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Engine speed (NE signal) is below 6000 rpm.

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Difference between the NE signal that is sent directly from ECM and the engine speed that is sent via CAN is 300 rpm or higher.


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Wire harness or connector

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Crankshaft position sensor

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ECM

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Engine stop and start ECU


Blinks DTC stored SAE Code: P0335

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

CONFIRMATION AFTER TROUBLESHOOTING


HINT:
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If the cable is disconnected from the battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed.

In this case, let the vehicle idle to complete the refresh charge. The refresh charge is complete when the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" changes from "Refresh Charge Mode". (Usually, idling the engine for 5 to 60 minutes with the battery fluid temperature at 11°C (51°F) or higher, the refresh charge will be completed.)

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If the GTS is not available and the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" cannot be checked, charge the battery by idling the engine for approximately 5 to 60 minutes or driving the vehicle, and then drive the vehicle and check that stop and start control operates.

If the engine is started with the hood open, the system determines that a jump start has occurred. Therefore, make sure that the hood is closed before starting the engine and driving the vehicle.

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After the refresh charge completes, turn the ignition switch off, wait for at least 30 seconds, and then start the engine again. If the vehicle enters refresh charge mode again while the engine is idling, the initial refresh charge did not properly complete, so wait for the refresh charge to complete.

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Allow the engine to idle for 3 minutes after it is warmed up and check that the engine idle speed is within 50 rpm of the target idle speed.



a.

Connect the GTS to the DLC3.


b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Turn the GTS on.


d.

Clear the DTCs.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Clear DTCs
50002 392

e.

Start the engine and wait for at least 15 seconds.


f.

Check that DTCs are not output.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
50001 392
A199262E07
3.177,2.427 3.177,3.021 false 1.198,1.146 2.417,1.438 1.219,0.292 10 false Engine Running 4.365,0.177 5.573,0.354 1.208,0.177 10 false Judgment Timing 3.49,1.729 4.302,1.906 0.813,0.177 10 false 15 seconds 6.292,2.833 6.656,3.01 0.365,0.177 10 false Time 1.333,2.385 2.417,2.615 1.083,0.229 10 false Engine Stopped 2.813,3.052 3.833,3.292 1.021,0.24 10 false Engine Started 4.115,3.302 6.313,3.51 2.198,0.208 10 false Judged Normal or Abnormal



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WIRING DIAGRAM

A574951E01
0.125,4.646 0.438,4.844 0.313,0.198 10 false F4 0.125,4.792 1.844,5.021 1.719,0.229 10 false Crankshaft Position Sensor 3.156,4.667 3.646,4.865 0.49,0.198 10 false ECM 5.427,5.271 7.146,5.5 1.719,0.229 10 false Engine Stop and Start ECU 2.323,2.917 2.635,3.115 0.313,0.198 10 false C71 1.021,2.927 1.333,3.125 0.313,0.198 10 false NE+ 1.052,3.573 1.365,3.771 0.313,0.198 10 false NE- 0.927,4.271 1.375,4.469 0.448,0.198 10 false VCNE 2.698,2.927 3.01,3.125 0.313,0.198 10 false NE+ 2.719,3.615 3.031,3.813 0.313,0.198 10 false NE- 2.708,4.302 3.198,4.521 0.49,0.219 10 false VCNE 3.573,2.99 3.927,3.177 0.354,0.188 10 false NEO 3.51,3.615 3.958,3.833 0.448,0.219 10 false CANH 3.552,4.302 3.958,4.51 0.406,0.208 10 false CANL 5.49,2.938 5.802,3.135 0.313,0.198 10 false A34 5.479,3.625 5.792,3.823 0.313,0.198 10 false A32 5.479,4.313 5.792,4.51 0.313,0.198 10 false A32 5.49,4.927 5.802,5.125 0.313,0.198 10 false A34 5.854,2.938 6.167,3.135 0.313,0.198 10 false NE 5.854,3.625 6.385,3.823 0.531,0.198 10 false CANH 5.844,4.323 6.365,4.521 0.521,0.198 10 false CANL 5.865,4.938 6.354,5.094 0.49,0.156 10 false DGND 2.333,2.719 2.708,2.917 0.375,0.198 10 false 133 2.365,3.406 2.646,3.604 0.281,0.198 10 false 99 2.333,4.094 2.615,4.292 0.281,0.198 10 false 129 1.417,2.813 1.698,3.01 0.281,0.198 10 false 1 1.427,3.51 1.708,3.708 0.281,0.198 10 false 2 1.427,4.188 1.708,4.385 0.281,0.198 10 false 3 5.531,2.729 5.813,2.927 0.281,0.198 10 false 10 5.531,3.417 5.813,3.615 0.281,0.198 10 false 13 5.521,4.104 5.802,4.302 0.281,0.198 10 false 14 5.563,4.719 5.844,4.917 0.281,0.198 10 false 6 0.531,0.292 3.479,0.51 2.948,0.219 10 false *: w/ Smart Entry and Start System 1.073,6.188 2.792,6.417 1.719,0.229 10 false : CAN Communication Line 5.365,1.323 5.958,1.573 0.594,0.25 10 false A126 5.365,1.49 6.917,1.917 1.552,0.427 10 false Certification ECU (Smart Key ECU Assembly)* 5.385,0.667 5.667,0.865 0.281,0.198 10 false 15 5.656,0.75 5.969,0.948 0.313,0.198 10 false NE 2.333,3.615 2.646,3.813 0.313,0.198 10 false C71 2.333,4.292 2.646,4.49 0.313,0.198 10 false C71 3.99,4.302 4.594,4.51 0.604,0.208 10 false A125 3.99,3.615 4.594,3.813 0.604,0.198 10 false A125 3.979,2.938 4.5,3.26 0.521,0.323 10 false A125 4.094,4.115 4.542,4.365 0.448,0.25 10 false 5 4.083,3.417 4.469,3.646 0.385,0.229 10 false 4 4.052,2.719 4.469,2.906 0.417,0.188 10 false 66

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

NOTICE:
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Before replacing the engine stop and start ECU, read the number of starter operations and write it into a new engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

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After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or air conditioning amplifier assembly, reset and perform learning of the air conditioning information in the engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

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After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or airbag ECU assembly, clear and calibrate the deceleration sensor zero point in the engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

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Bleed the oil pump with motor assembly (continuously variable transaxle assembly) after removing and installing the continuously variable transaxle assembly or replacing the CVT fluid.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION



HINT:
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Using the GTS, read the freeze frame data before troubleshooting. System condition information is recorded as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>FREEZE FRAME DATA

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DTCs for the stop and start system are not cleared even if the malfunction has been repaired. After repairing the malfunction, be sure to clear the DTCs.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>DTC CHECK / CLEAR



PROCEDURE

1.CHECK DTC OUTPUT (SFI SYSTEM)
a.

Connect the GTS to the DLC3.


b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Turn the GTS on.


d.

Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine / Trouble Codes.


e.

Read the DTCs.

Powertrain > Engine > Trouble Codes
50001 372
Result:
Result Proceed to
SFI system DTCs are not output A
SFI system crankshaft position sensor circuit DTC is output B




A

2.READ VALUE USING GTS (ENGINE SPEED)

B

GO TO SFI SYSTEM
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for M20C-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20C-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE CHART

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for M20D-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20D-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE CHART



2.READ VALUE USING GTS (ENGINE SPEED)
a.

Connect the GTS to the DLC3


b.

Start the engine.


c.

Turn the GTS on.


d.

Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Stop and Start / Data List / Engine Speed.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Data List
Tester Display
Engine Speed
50003 392 502

e.

According to the display on the GTS, read the Data List.

OK:

Engine speed signal is input (the speeds displayed on the tachometer and the GTS are almost the same).



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

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NG

3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)
3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Disconnect the ECM connector.


c.

Disconnect the certification ECU (smart key ECU assembly) connector. (w/ Smart Entry and Start System)


d.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
A34-10 (NE) - A125-66 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
A34-10 (NE) or A125-66 (NEO) - Body ground and other terminals Always 10 kΩ or higher



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

4.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

4.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
A34-6 (DGND) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

5.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

5.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)
a.

Start the engine and warm it up.


b.

Connect an oscilloscope to the NE and DGND terminals of the engine stop and start ECU connector.

A419453C30
3.25,0.5 3.667,0.75 0.417,0.25 2.604,2.167 2.958,1.208 true 4.208,2.135 3.729,1.198 true 3.333,0.542 3.76,0.771 0.427,0.229 10 false A34 2.458,2.188 2.885,2.417 0.427,0.229 10 false NE 4.104,2.177 4.625,2.417 0.521,0.24 10 false DGND 0.74,0.417 1.167,0.646 0.427,0.229 10 false *a
*a Component with harness connected
(Engine Stop and Start ECU) 		- -



c.
A318633E04
2.792,1.042 3.25,1.24 0.458,0.198 10 false GND 0.26,0.073 1.49,0.271 1.229,0.198 10 false 5 V/DIV. 1.313,1.906 2.844,2.104 1.531,0.198 10 false 2 ms./DIV.

Check the signal waveform according to the condition(s) in the table below.

Item Condition
Tester Connection A34-10 (NE) - A34-6 (DGND)
Tool Setting 5 V/DIV., 2 ms./DIV.
Condition Idling after engine warmed up

Result:
Result Proceed to
Pulse generation
(See waveform) 		A
Stuck at 0 to 1.5 V B
Stuck at 8 to 14 V C




A

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B

6.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)

C

GO TO SFI SYSTEM
·

for M20C-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20C-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>HOW TO PROCEED WITH TROUBLESHOOTING

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for M20D-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20D-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>HOW TO PROCEED WITH TROUBLESHOOTING



6.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)
A419453C30
3.25,0.5 3.667,0.75 0.417,0.25 2.604,2.167 2.958,1.208 true 4.208,2.135 3.729,1.198 true 3.333,0.542 3.76,0.771 0.427,0.229 10 false A34 2.458,2.188 2.885,2.417 0.427,0.229 10 false NE 4.104,2.177 4.625,2.417 0.521,0.24 10 false DGND 0.74,0.417 1.167,0.646 0.427,0.229 10 false *a
*a Component with harness connected
(Engine Stop and Start ECU) 		- -


a.

Disconnect the ECM connector.


b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Voltage:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
A34-10 (NE) - A34-6 (DGND) Ignition switch ON 8 to 14 V


HINT:

DTCs may be stored during this inspection. Check for DTCs and clear them using the GTS.


Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG




OK

GO TO SFI SYSTEM
·

for M20C-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20C-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>HOW TO PROCEED WITH TROUBLESHOOTING

·

for M20D-FKS:

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>M20D-FKS (ENGINE CONTROL)>SFI SYSTEM>HOW TO PROCEED WITH TROUBLESHOOTING



NG

REPLACE ENGINE STOP AND START ECU

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>ENGINE STOP AND START ECU>REMOVAL