RM35X0E _51 Engine / Hybrid System _078825 STOP AND START _0382334 STOP AND START SYSTEM C

STOP AND START  STOP AND START SYSTEM  P164400  ECU Malfunction (Starter Circuit)  


DESCRIPTION

If a malfunction is detected in the starter circuit, the engine stop and start ECU stores DTC P164400 and blinks the stop and start cancel indicator.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area Warning Indicate Memory Note
P164400 ECU Malfunction (Starter Circuit) Both of the following conditions are met for 0.2 seconds or more (1 trip detection logic):
·

Ignition switch ON.

·

Malfunction in starter circuit (STA or STA2).


·

Wire harness or connector

·

STARTER relay

·

STARTER NO.2 relay

·

Engine stop and start ECU


Blinks DTC stored SAE Code: P1644

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

CONFIRMATION AFTER TROUBLESHOOTING


HINT:
·

If the cable is disconnected from the battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed.

In this case, let the vehicle idle to complete the refresh charge. The refresh charge is complete when the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" changes from "Refresh Charge Mode". (Usually, idling the engine for 5 to 60 minutes with the battery fluid temperature at 11°C (51°F) or higher, the refresh charge will be completed.)

·

If the GTS is not available and the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" cannot be checked, charge the battery by idling the engine for approximately 5 to 60 minutes or driving the vehicle, and then drive the vehicle and check that stop and start control operates.

If the engine is started with the hood open, the system determines that a jump start has occurred. Therefore, make sure that the hood is closed before starting the engine and driving the vehicle.

·

After the refresh charge completes, turn the ignition switch off, wait for at least 30 seconds, and then start the engine again. If the vehicle enters refresh charge mode again while the engine is idling, the initial refresh charge did not properly complete, so wait for the refresh charge to complete.

·

Allow the engine to idle for 3 minutes after it is warmed up and check that the engine idle speed is within 50 rpm of the target idle speed.



a.

Connect the GTS to the DLC3.


b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Turn the GTS on.


d.

Clear the DTCs.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Clear DTCs
50002 392

e.

Start the engine and warm it up.


f.

Drive the vehicle at 7 km/h (4 mph) or more.

CAUTION:

When performing Confirmation Driving Pattern, obey all speed limits and traffic laws.



g.

for Automatic Transmission:

Depress the brake pedal and stop the vehicle.

for Manual Transmission:

Stop the vehicle, move the shift lever to neutral and release the clutch pedal.


h.

Allow the engine to stop by stop and start control. (for Automatic Transmission: Keep the shift lever in D.)


i.

for Automatic Transmission:

Release the brake pedal with the shift lever in D to start the engine.

for Manual Transmission:

Depress the clutch pedal and start the engine.


j.

Check that DTCs are not output.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
50001 392


STOP AND START SYSTEM OPERATION CHECK


HINT:
·

If the cable is disconnected from the battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed.

In this case, let the vehicle idle to complete the refresh charge. The refresh charge is complete when the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" changes from "Refresh Charge Mode". (Usually, idling the engine for 5 to 60 minutes with the battery fluid temperature at 11°C (51°F) or higher, the refresh charge will be completed.)

·

If the GTS is not available and the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" cannot be checked, charge the battery by idling the engine for approximately 5 to 60 minutes or driving the vehicle, and then drive the vehicle and check that stop and start control operates.

If the engine is started with the hood open, the system determines that a jump start has occurred. Therefore, make sure that the hood is closed before starting the engine and driving the vehicle.

·

After the refresh charge completes, turn the ignition switch off, wait for at least 30 seconds, and then start the engine again. If the vehicle enters refresh charge mode again while the engine is idling, the initial refresh charge did not properly complete, so wait for the refresh charge to complete.



a.

Start the engine and warm it up.


b.

Turn the air conditioning system off.


c.

Drive the vehicle at 7 km/h (4 mph) or more.

CAUTION:

When performing Confirmation Driving Pattern, obey all speed limits and traffic laws.



d.

for Automatic Transmission:

Depress the brake pedal and stop the vehicle.

for Manual Transmission:

Stop the vehicle, move the shift lever to neutral and release the clutch pedal.


e.

Allow the engine to stop by stop and start control. (for Automatic Transmission: Keep the shift lever in D.)


f.

for Automatic Transmission:

Release the brake pedal with the shift lever in D to start the engine.

for Manual Transmission:

Depress the clutch pedal and start the engine.



CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

NOTICE:
·

Before replacing the engine stop and start ECU, read the number of starter operations and write it into a new engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

·

After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or air conditioning amplifier assembly, reset and perform learning of the air conditioning information in the engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

·

After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or airbag sensor assembly, clear and calibrate the deceleration sensor zero point in the engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

·

for Automatic Transmission:

When the engine stop and start ECU or electromagnetic oil pump is replaced, check the electromagnetic oil pump.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

·

Inspect the fuses for circuits related to this system before performing the following procedure.



HINT:
·

If DTCs P060B1C (Analog to Digital Converter Circuit Voltage Out of Range), P060B49 (Analog to Digital Converter Internal Electronic Failure) or P060B71 (Analog to Digital Converter Actuator Stuck) and P164400 (ECU Malfunction (Starter Circuit)) are output simultaneously, perform troubleshooting for DTC P060B1C, P060B49 or P060B71 first as it may have caused DTC P164400 to be stored.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>P060B1C

·

If DTCs P061519 (Starter Relay Circuit Current Above Threshold) and P164400 (ECU Malfunction (Starter Circuit)) are output simultaneously, perform troubleshooting for DTC P061519 first as it may have caused DTC P164400 to be stored.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>P061519

·

Using the GTS, read the freeze frame data before troubleshooting. System condition information is recorded as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>FREEZE FRAME DATA

·

DTCs for the stop and start system are not cleared even if the malfunction has been repaired. After repairing the malfunction, be sure to clear the DTCs.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>DTC CHECK / CLEAR



PROCEDURE

1.CHECK ANY OTHER DTCS OUTPUT (IN ADDITION TO DTC P164400)
a.

Connect the GTS to the DLC3.


b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Turn the GTS on.


d.

Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Stop and Start / Trouble Codes.


e.

Read the DTCs.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
50001 392
Result:
Result Proceed to
DTC P164400 is output A
DTCs P060B1C, P060B49 or P060B71 and P164400 are output B
DTCs P061519 and P164400 are output C


HINT:

If DTCs P060B1C, P060B49, P060B71 or P061519 and P164400 are output simultaneously, troubleshoot for DTC P060B1C, P060B49, P060B71 or P061519 first.




A

2.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - STARTER RELAY)

B

C

2.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - STARTER RELAY)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Remove the STARTER relay from the No. 1 engine room relay block and No. 1 junction block assembly.


c.

w/ Entry and Start System:

Disconnect the certification ECU (smart key ECU assembly) connector.


d.

for Automatic Transmission:

Disconnect the park/neutral position switch assembly connector.


e.

for Manual Transmission:

Disconnect the clutch start switch assembly (for lower) connector.


f.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
N32-21 (STA) - 2 (STARTER relay) Always Below 1 Ω
N32-21 (STA) or 2 (STARTER relay) - Body ground and other terminals Always 10 kΩ or higher



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - PARK/NEUTRAL POSITION SWITCH ASSEMBLY, CLUTCH START SWITCH ASSEMBLY)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - PARK/NEUTRAL POSITION SWITCH ASSEMBLY, CLUTCH START SWITCH ASSEMBLY)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

w/ Entry and Start System:

Disconnect the certification ECU (smart key ECU assembly) connector.


c.

for Automatic Transmission:

Disconnect the park/neutral position switch assembly connector.


d.

for Manual Transmission:

Disconnect the clutch start switch assembly (for lower) connector.


e.

Remove the STARTER relay from the No. 1 engine room relay block and No. 1 junction block assembly.


f.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
for Automatic Transmission:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
N32-21 (STA) - E92-5 (L) Always Below 1 Ω
N32-21 (STA) or E92-5 (L) - Body ground and other terminals Always 10 kΩ or higher

for Manual Transmission:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
N32-21 (STA) - M7-2 (L) Always Below 1 Ω
N32-21 (STA) or M7-2 (L) - Body ground and other terminals Always 10 kΩ or higher



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

4.INSPECT STARTER RELAY

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

4.INSPECT STARTER RELAY

OK

5.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (STARTER RELAY - BODY GROUND)

NG

REPLACE STARTER RELAY

5.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (STARTER RELAY - BODY GROUND)
a.

Remove the STARTER relay from the No. 1 engine room relay block and No. 1 junction block assembly.


b.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
1 (STARTER relay) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

6.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - STARTER NO.2 RELAY)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

6.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - STARTER NO.2 RELAY)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Remove the STARTER NO.2 relay from the No. 1 engine room relay block and No. 1 junction block assembly.


c.

Disconnect the ECM connector.


d.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
N32-23 (STA2) - 2 (STARTER NO.2 relay) Always Below 1 Ω
N32-23 (STA2) or 2 (STARTER NO.2 relay) - Body ground and other terminals Always 10 kΩ or higher



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

7.INSPECT STARTER NO.2 RELAY

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

7.INSPECT STARTER NO.2 RELAY

OK

8.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (STARTER NO.2 RELAY - BODY GROUND)

NG

REPLACE STARTER NO.2 RELAY

8.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (STARTER NO.2 RELAY - BODY GROUND)
a.

Remove the STARTER NO.2 relay from the No. 1 engine room relay block and No. 1 junction block assembly.


b.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition
1 (STARTER NO.2 relay) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR