RM38N0EC _51 Engine / Hybrid System _111803 STOP AND START _0509671 STOP AND START SYSTEM C

STOP AND START  STOP AND START SYSTEM  P033562  Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Signal Compare Failure  


DESCRIPTION

The crank position sensor sends an engine speed signal (NE signal) to the ECM. The engine speed signal is then sent directly from the NEO terminal of the ECM to the engine stop and start ECU. Additionally, the ECM sends the engine speed to the engine stop and start ECU via CAN communication. The engine stop and start ECU compares the NE signal and engine speed received via CAN communication to check for errors in the NE signal.

If the NE signal is abnormal, the engine stop and start ECU will blink the stop and start cancel indicator and stores DTC P033562.

DTC No. Detection Item DTC Detection Condition Trouble Area Warning Indicate Note
P033562 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Signal Compare Failure All of the following conditions are met for 10 seconds (1 trip detection logic):
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Normal communication between the ECM and the engine stop and start ECU.

·

Engine speed (NE signal) is below 6000 rpm.

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Difference between the NE signal that is sent directly from ECM and the engine speed that is sent via CAN is 300 rpm or higher.


·

Wire harness or connector

·

Crank position sensor

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ECM

·

Engine stop and start ECU


Blinks SAE Code: P0335

CONFIRMATION DRIVING PATTERN

CONFIRMATION AFTER TROUBLESHOOTING


HINT:
·

If the cable is disconnected from the battery terminal, stop and start control is prohibited until refresh charge is completed.

In this case, let the vehicle idle to complete the refresh charge. The refresh charge is complete when the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" changes from "Refresh Charge Mode". (Usually, idling the engine for 5 to 60 minutes with the battery fluid temperature at 11°C (52°F) or higher, the refresh charge will be completed.)

·

If the GTS is not available and the Data List item "Status of Battery Charge Control" cannot be checked, charge the battery by idling the engine for approximately 5 to 60 minutes or driving the vehicle, and then drive the vehicle and check that stop and start control operates.

If the engine is started with the hood open, the system determines that a jump start has occurred. Therefore, make sure that the hood is closed before starting the engine and driving the vehicle.

·

After the refresh charge completes, turn the ignition switch off, wait for at least 30 seconds, and then start the engine again. If the vehicle enters refresh charge mode again while the engine is idling, the initial refresh charge did not properly complete, so wait for the refresh charge to complete.

·

Allow the engine to idle for 3 minutes after it is warmed up and check that the engine idle speed is within 50 rpm of the target idle speed.



a.

Clear the DTCs.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Clear DTCs
50002 392

b.

Start the engine and wait for at least 15 seconds.


c.

Check that DTCs are not output.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Trouble Codes
50001 392
A199262E07
3.177,2.427 3.177,3.021 false 1.198,1.146 2.417,1.438 1.219,0.292 10 false Engine Running 4.365,0.177 5.573,0.354 1.208,0.177 10 false Judgment Timing 3.49,1.729 4.302,1.906 0.813,0.177 10 false 15 seconds 6.292,2.833 6.656,3.01 0.365,0.177 10 false Time 1.333,2.385 2.417,2.615 1.083,0.229 10 false Engine Stopped 2.813,3.052 3.833,3.292 1.021,0.24 10 false Engine Started 4.115,3.302 6.313,3.51 2.198,0.208 10 false Judged Normal or Abnormal




WIRING DIAGRAM

A538392E01
0.781,4.427 2.781,4.615 2,0.188 10 false : CAN Communication Line 0.354,3.604 2.427,3.802 2.073,0.198 10 false Crank Position Sensor 3.396,3.469 3.854,3.677 0.458,0.208 10 false ECM 5.552,3.896 6.927,4.26 1.375,0.365 10 false Engine Stop and Start ECU 5.24,0.948 7.063,1.354 1.823,0.406 10 false Certification ECU (Smart Key ECU Assembly) 0.365,3.417 0.885,3.573 0.521,0.156 10 false B22 2.74,2.042 3.115,2.323 0.375,0.281 10 false C115 2.74,2.521 3.125,2.75 0.385,0.229 10 false C115 2.74,2.99 3.104,3.229 0.365,0.24 10 false C115 5.24,0.76 5.698,0.958 0.458,0.198 10 false A15 4.24,2.042 4.698,2.24 0.458,0.198 10 false A109 4.229,2.521 4.688,2.719 0.458,0.198 10 false A109 4.229,2.99 4.688,3.188 0.458,0.198 10 false A109 5.438,2.042 5.896,2.24 0.458,0.198 10 false A106 5.438,2.51 5.833,2.75 0.396,0.24 10 false A104 5.438,2.99 5.844,3.198 0.406,0.208 10 false A104 5.438,3.479 5.896,3.677 0.458,0.198 10 false A106 5.875,2.052 6.188,2.25 0.313,0.198 10 false NE 5.865,0.448 6.177,0.646 0.313,0.198 10 false NE 5.865,2.531 6.406,2.74 0.542,0.208 10 false CANH 5.875,3 6.417,3.208 0.542,0.208 10 false CANL 5.865,3.49 6.406,3.698 0.542,0.208 10 false DGND 3.896,2.063 4.208,2.26 0.313,0.198 10 false NEO 3.792,2.542 4.333,2.75 0.542,0.208 10 false CANH 3.813,3.021 4.354,3.229 0.542,0.208 10 false CANL 3.156,2.063 3.469,2.26 0.313,0.198 10 false NE+ 3.167,2.542 3.479,2.74 0.313,0.198 10 false NE- 3.156,3.01 3.573,3.208 0.417,0.198 10 false VCNE 1.385,2.052 1.698,2.25 0.313,0.198 10 false NE+ 1.396,2.521 1.708,2.719 0.313,0.198 10 false NE- 1.219,3.01 1.656,3.208 0.438,0.198 10 false VCNE 1.708,1.938 1.865,2.135 0.156,0.198 10 false 1 1.708,2.427 1.865,2.625 0.156,0.198 10 false 2 1.708,2.906 1.865,3.104 0.156,0.198 10 false 3 2.781,1.854 3.094,2.052 0.313,0.198 10 false 133 2.823,2.323 3.281,2.521 0.458,0.198 10 false 99 2.792,2.802 3.25,3 0.458,0.198 10 false 129 4.302,1.854 4.615,2.052 0.313,0.198 10 false 66 4.344,2.333 4.656,2.531 0.313,0.198 10 false 4 4.344,2.813 4.656,3.01 0.313,0.198 10 false 5 5.521,1.854 5.833,2.052 0.313,0.198 10 false 10 5.521,2.333 5.833,2.531 0.313,0.198 10 false 13 5.51,2.802 5.823,3 0.313,0.198 10 false 14 5.563,3.281 5.719,3.479 0.156,0.198 10 false 6 5.615,0.313 5.927,0.51 0.313,0.198 10 false 15

CAUTION / NOTICE / HINT

NOTICE:
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Before replacing the engine stop and start ECU, read the number of starter operations and write it into a new engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

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After replacing the engine stop and start ECU or air conditioning amplifier assembly, reset and perform learning of the air conditioning information in the engine stop and start ECU.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION

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After replacing the engine stop and start ECU, perform learning of the external backup boost converter (eco run vehicle converter assembly).

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>REGISTRATION



HINT:
·

Using the GTS, read the Freeze Frame Data before troubleshooting. System condition information is recorded as Freeze Frame Data the moment a DTC is stored. This information can be useful when troubleshooting.

Click hereEngine / Hybrid System>STOP AND START>STOP AND START SYSTEM>FREEZE FRAME DATA

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DTCs for the stop and start system are not cleared even if the malfunction has been repaired. After repairing the malfunction, be sure to clear the DTCs.



PROCEDURE

1.CHECK DTC OUTPUT (ENGINE CONTROL SYSTEM)
a.

Read the DTCs

Powertrain > Engine > Trouble Codes
50001 372
Result:
Result Proceed to
Engine control system DTCs are output A
Engine control system crank position sensor circuit DTC is output B




A

2.READ VALUE USING GTS (ENGINE SPEED)

B

2.READ VALUE USING GTS (ENGINE SPEED)
a.

Start the engine.


b.

According to the display on the GTS, read the Data List.

Powertrain > Stop and Start > Data List
Tester Display
Engine Speed
50003 392 502
OK:

Engine speed signal is input (the speeds displayed on the tachometer and the GTS are almost the same).



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

NG

3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)
3.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - ECM)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Disconnect the ECM connector.


c.

Disconnect the certification ECU (smart key ECU assembly) connector.


d.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition

Click Location & Routing(A106,A109)Location & Routing

Click Connector(A106)Instrument Panel>Engine Room Main Wire>Engine Stop and Start ECU

Click Connector(A109)Engine Compartment>Engine Room Main Wire / Transmission Wire>ECM

A106-10 (NE) - A109-66 (NEO) Always Below 1 Ω
A106-10 (NE) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher
A109-66 (NEO) - Body ground Always 10 kΩ or higher



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

4.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

4.CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (ENGINE STOP AND START ECU - BODY GROUND)
a.

Disconnect the engine stop and start ECU connector.


b.

Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition

Click Location & Routing(A106)Location & Routing

Click Connector(A106)Instrument Panel>Engine Room Main Wire>Engine Stop and Start ECU

A106-6 (DGND) - Body ground Always Below 1 Ω



Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG



OK

5.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)

NG

REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR

5.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE SIGNAL INPUT)
a.

Connect an oscilloscope to the NE and DGND terminals of the engine stop and start ECU connector.

A456121C70
3.26,0.094 3.646,0.365 0.385,0.271 3.698,0.823 3.969,1.438 true 2.917,0.823 2.76,1.49 true 0.708,0.094 1.021,0.292 0.313,0.198 10 false *a 4,1.49 4.615,1.688 0.615,0.198 10 false DGND 2.646,1.5 3.26,1.698 0.615,0.198 10 false NE 3.302,0.146 3.917,0.344 0.615,0.198 10 false A106
*a Component with harness connected
(Engine Stop and Start ECU)
- -



b.

Start the engine.


c.
A318633E23
2.792,1.042 3.25,1.24 0.458,0.198 10 false GND

Check the signal waveform according to the condition(s) in the table below.

Item Condition
Tester Connection A106-10 (NE) - A106-6 (DGND)
Tool Setting 5 V/DIV., 2 ms./DIV.
Condition Idling with warm engine

Result:
Result Proceed to
Pulse generation
(See waveform)
A
Stuck at 0 to 1.5 V B
Stuck at 8 to 14 V C




A

B

6.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)

C

6.CHECK ENGINE STOP AND START ECU (NE TERMINAL VOLTAGE)
a.

Disconnect the ECM connector.

A456121C73
3.26,0.094 3.646,0.365 0.385,0.271 3.688,0.802 4.042,1.479 true 2.906,0.802 2.781,1.458 true 0.708,0.094 1.021,0.292 0.313,0.198 10 false *a 4.083,1.51 4.698,1.708 0.615,0.198 10 false DGND 2.635,1.51 3.25,1.708 0.615,0.198 10 false NE 3.302,0.146 3.917,0.344 0.615,0.198 10 false A106
*a Component with harness connected
(Engine Stop and Start ECU)
- -



b.

Turn the ignition switch to ON.


c.

Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Voltage:
Tester Connection Condition Specified Condition

Click Location & Routing(A106)Location & Routing

Click Connector(A106)Instrument Panel>Engine Room Main Wire>Engine Stop and Start ECU

A106-10 (NE) - A106-6 (DGND) Ignition switch ON 8 to 14 V


HINT:

DTCs may be stored during this inspection. Check for DTCs and clear them using the GTS.


Result:
Proceed to
OK
NG




OK

NG